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Thursday, December 18, 2008
Why Doesn't Obama Think Warren Is Disagreeing in Disagreeable Way? UPDATED TWICE
I agree we can disagree without being disagreeable. I don't agree that the comparison of gay marriage to child rape is agreeable or that lying to people about the implications of Prop 8 in order to get hate written into a State Constitution is agreeable disagreement. Capitulation isn't "coming together."
And, by the way, no, I don't think "we all know" what a ferocious defender you are of LGBTQ folks, Mr President Elect. I love you, but I consider that an area in which you have to prove your leadership after some lukewarm moves so far, of which this latest is hardly confidence inspiring.
UPDATE: Revealing debate on the topic over on CNN:
UPDATE TWO: This dKos diarist offers up an anecdote that has given me pause but not yet changed my mind. Eric is coming around on this a little bit, especially given the Lowery book-end, and he usually is more sensible than I am about these things, so we'll see. I guess if Warren manages to be bland and Lowery to be a firebrand this will turn out, uh, okay, ish, but I still think this was a mistake, I still think too many progressives think queers are frivolous to expect their demand for equal treatment to be any kind of political priority, and I still think the way to reach out to social conservatives is to marginalize the worst of them while opening the way to more reasonable ones. And this last strategy requires not falling for "America's Pastor" PR like Warren's when there is demonstrably a dime thin difference between him and the likes of Dobson.