The sooner people realize they BOTH stoked the misplaced White rage and resentment that created this DISASTER, the sooner we fix it. https://t.co/oPmWKmxNFM
— Propane Jane™ (@docrocktex26) December 19, 2016
@docrocktex26 @dalecarrico - Baloney. Don't equate B w/ T. Nowhere near the same. Trump IS the issue. -
— Señor Sanderista (@sidecarhammond) December 19, 2016
@sidecarhammond Recognizing a relation is not positing an equation.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@Maggyw519 @docrocktex26 @dalecarrico - losing EV but winning PV by ~3,000,000 votes = bad strategy. Dems need to own that. -
— Señor Sanderista (@sidecarhammond) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond @Maggyw519 What does "own that" look like? If it looks like rejecting Obama coalition or pretending HRC was anti-WC then no.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@Maggyw519 @docrocktex26 @dalecarrico - nope, Clinton campaign did more damage to itself than B could ever do. -
— Señor Sanderista (@sidecarhammond) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond @Maggyw519 So you concede B did damage? Btw, I cheerfully concede monocausal explanations of the loss are bunk.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@dalecarrico @Maggyw519 - In my opinion, he made her a better candidate; her campaign did not learn from the primary/adjust for the general. -
— Señor Sanderista (@sidecarhammond) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond @Maggyw519 I think she was campaigning from the left before he appeared then he smeared her with insinuations of corruption.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond @Maggyw519 But I'm happy to agree to disagree since neither will run again & relitigating primary is stupid self-indulgence.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@dalecarrico @Maggyw519 - for me this is not about relitigating the primary; it's about assessing what went wrong & learning from mistakes.
— Señor Sanderista (@sidecarhammond) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond Needless to say specificity about what you think some mistakes & bad decisions were is required before I can usefully agree.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond For example some people propose (foolishly in my view) abandoning diverse coalition politics to shift focus to "WWC" mirage.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond Others use "mistakes were made" as preface to distortions of an always progressive campaign eventually with a fine platform.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond It's easy to agree there were problems. HRCs high negatives gave us an uphill slog (we can disagree whether BS exacerbated),
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond HRC was a self-admitted stiff campaigner, and it is clear many lefties (idiotically) need a charismatic DreamPrez to love.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond Campaign underplayed chance to run sequel of successful anti-Romney attack focused as Warren was on Trump greed/corruption.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond Campaign too cavalier about the effects of voter disenfranchisement in Republican run states treated as Northern firewalls.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond I don't know what campaign was supposed to do about crimes like Comey's letter, hacked Podesta e-mail, or media malfeasance.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond As I said before monocausal explanations distort lessons. Given Trump's historic loss of popular vote and unfavorables...
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond It's actually tricky and almost certainly wrong to draw overdramatic lessons from the loss, truly dramatic tho its result.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond I'm focused on state races in two years, hoping disenfranchisement problems can be addressed thereby,
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond and hope a younger candidate who is a good talker who can stealth his wonkery and champions the Obama coalition runs next,
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
@sidecarhammond I'm sorry to say Trump will preside over a heap of wreckage to run against, assuming elections aren't part of the wreckage.
— Dale Carrico (@dalecarrico) December 20, 2016
Aw, fuck it! I won't be defeated. Here's Xanadu, anayway!
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