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Saturday, July 03, 2010

This Week's White Guys of "The Future" Report

It has been seven days, and so I have strolled, as usual, over to the website of the Robot Cult outfit, IEET, the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies, and had a look around.

And again, as usual, although only a minority of people in the world are white guys, and only a minority of people with whom tomorrow will be made and shared are white guys, and only a minority of people in the world impacted by technodevelopmental changes are white guys, and only a minority of people in the world who are well informed and have important things to say about matters of technoscience are white guys, nevertheless I can report that of the fifteen portraits of today's featured authors and speakers there you will find only one that is not a white guy.

This is still as weird and wrong as it was when I reported it in weeks and months prior to this one. Of course, there are endlessly many other weird and wrong things to say about the Robot Cultists, many of which I have written about here).

I should add that the one not white guy featured over at IEET at the moment is, as the featured not white guy so regularly tends to be, Martine Rothblatt, about whom I have written here before, for example here and here and here, and about whom I mean to say more in a moment.

11 comments:

Khannea Suntzu said...

Your are right. These are all americana, or annglosaxon white guys. This is a concern and it does bother me as much as it does you.

Difference is I am a gospelite robot cultist, i.e. a card carrying transhumanist and I feel annoyed to be called out on this, because, well, I think these 15 are pretty much all pretty cool guys and I consider most of them my family and tribe. But yanno, you come with the criticism, so I have to take it serious.

Ok, lets assume you go to a wedding, being invited by a blonde danish girl who gets wed. Arriving there, you'd notice - hey look. The groom is an Italian. His mother is Italian. Uncles are all slimy greaseball Italians. Look, all those girls, chewing gum chewing sleazy Italian guidettes. Yep they got an uncle Vinnie, Italian. Holy shit a squat guy Mario with sunglasses, a massive piece of wop. This is all fucking Italians, holy fuck where is the Don.

There would be historical reasons why a certain movement began heavily predisposed towards a certain ethnicity. It was not surprising that Christianity started, all these goddamn white trash Romans. The core of industrial age began with a certain class of white middle class, somewhat older, damn rich english men. None of the filthy potato eating Irish. No shifty eyed jews. OF COURSE no women, because, hey woman do not have the mental capacities for understanding the ingenuities of engineering yes?

You have validly called out the IEET on being all male, all white, largely anglosaxon. Suer Dale you can now proceed yo say they are all ass padded, somewhat jewish, geeks, don't get laid, most of them are shifty four-eyed nerds.

But Dale, like the Italian wedding, that is enforcing your stereotype. You are raising the awareness of a by and large contingent (or historical) incident, which has plausible contextual reasons and saying 'hey look, it's a wop wedding'.

Dale, you are being your old hateful self again, basicly raising prejudice. What you don't add is you yourself where an IEET member and throw out on your ass because you couldn't keep your mouth shut. Dale, it would be easy to attribute all this to jilted-lover syndrome but let's keep it simple.

You have a point. Now other than to force kneeslapping stereotypes down your regular readers throat (hahahaHAA look they are all white and NERDY) try come up with something a little more decent next time willya?

Oh and in case your holy egoness deigns to reply to this, can ya please use somewhat less hystrionic drama-riddles shakespearean language mmmkay? I am good, but not as manicly eloquent as you. Please reply a little 'down to my level please' ?

Khannea Suntzu said...

2/2

You have validly called out the IEET on being all male, all white, largely anglosaxon. Suer Dale you can now proceed yo say they are all ass padded, somewhat jewish, geeks, don't get laid, most of them are shifty four-eyed nerds.

But Dale, like the Italian wedding, that is enforcing your stereotype. You are raising the awareness of a by and large contingent (or historical) incident, which has plausible contextual reasons and saying 'hey look, it's a wop wedding'.

Dale, you are being your old hateful self again, basicly raising prejudice. What you don't add is you yourself where an IEET member and throw out on your ass because you couldn't keep your mouth shut. Dale, it would be easy to attribute all this to jilted-lover syndrome but let's keep it simple.

You have a point. Now other than to force kneeslapping stereotypes down your regular readers throat (hahahaHAA look they are all white and NERDY) try come up with something a little more decent next time willya?

Oh and in case your holy egoness deigns to reply to this, can ya please use somewhat less hystrionic drama-riddles shakespearean language mmmkay? I am good, but not as manicly eloquent as you. Please reply a little 'down to my level please' ?

Khannea Suntzu said...

1/1

Your are right. These are all americana, or annglosaxon white guys. This is a concern and it does bother me as much as it does you.

Difference is I am a gospelite robot cultist, i.e. a card carrying transhumanist and I feel annoyed to be called out on this, because, well, I think these 15 are pretty much all pretty cool guys and I consider most of them my family and tribe. But yanno, you come with the criticism, so I have to take it serious.

Ok, lets assume you go to a wedding, being invited by a blonde danish girl who gets wed. Arriving there, you'd notice - hey look. The groom is an Italian. His mother is Italian. Uncles are all slimy greaseball Italians. Look, all those girls, chewing gum chewing sleazy Italian guidettes. Yep they got an uncle Vinnie, Italian. Holy shit a squat guy Mario with sunglasses, a massive piece of wop. This is all fucking Italians, holy fuck where is the Don.

There would be historical reasons why a certain movement began heavily predisposed towards a certain ethnicity. It was not surprising that Christianity started, all these goddamn white trash Romans. The core of industrial age began with a certain class of white middle class, somewhat older, damn rich english men. None of the filthy potato eating Irish. No shifty eyed jews. OF COURSE no women, because, hey woman do not have the mental capacities for understanding the ingenuities of engineering yes?

Khannea Suntzu said...

Your are right. These are all americana, or annglosaxon white guys. This is a concern and it does bother me as much as it does you.

Difference is I am a gospelite robot cultist, i.e. a card carrying transhumanist and I feel annoyed to be called out on this, because, well, I think these 15 are pretty much all pretty cool guys and I consider most of them my family and tribe. But yanno, you come with the criticism, so I have to take it serious.

Ok, lets assume you go to a wedding, being invited by a blonde danish girl who gets wed. Arriving there, you'd notice - hey look. The groom is an Italian. His mother is Italian. Uncles are all slimy greaseball Italians. Look, all those girls, chewing gum chewing sleazy Italian guidettes. Yep they got an uncle Vinnie, Italian. Holy shit a squat guy Mario with sunglasses, a massive piece of wop. This is all fucking Italians, holy fuck where is the Don.

There would be historical reasons why a certain movement began heavily predisposed towards a certain ethnicity. It was not surprising that Christianity started, all these goddamn white trash Romans. The core of industrial age began with a certain class of white middle class, somewhat older, damn rich english men. None of the filthy potato eating Irish. No shifty eyed jews. OF COURSE no women, because, hey woman do not have the mental capacities for understanding the ingenuities of engineering yes?

You have validly called out the IEET on being all male, all white, largely anglosaxon. Suer Dale you can now proceed yo say they are all ass padded, somewhat jewish, geeks, don't get laid, most of them are shifty four-eyed nerds.

But Dale, like the Italian wedding, that is enforcing your stereotype. You are raising the awareness of a by and large contingent (or historical) incident, which has plausible contextual reasons and saying 'hey look, it's a wop wedding'.

Dale, you are being your old hateful self again, basicly raising prejudice. What you don't add is you yourself where an IEET member and throw out on your ass because you couldn't keep your mouth shut. Dale, it would be easy to attribute all this to jilted-lover syndrome but let's keep it simple.

You have a point. Now other than to force kneeslapping stereotypes down your regular readers throat (hahahaHAA look they are all white and NERDY) try come up with something a little more decent next time willya?

Oh and in case your holy egoness deigns to reply to this, can ya please use somewhat less hystrionic drama-riddles shakespearean language mmmkay? I am good, but not as manicly eloquent as you. Please reply a little 'down to my level please' ?

Dale Carrico said...

It's the sanity that impresses me most about the Robot Cult.

jimf said...

> What you don't add is you yourself where an IEET member
> and throw out on your ass because you couldn't keep your
> mouth shut.

Well that's putting the case more baldly (and honestly) than
IEET's management ever did!

Khannea Suntzu said...

Can you be as kind as to remove the bugged doubled comments?

Dale Carrico said...

The greater kindness would be to remove all your comments entirely.

Khannea Suntzu said...

Dale, I am fully aware I am a nutcase. That's fine, because being riddled with ADHD, PTSD, hyperimpulsivity, anomie absolves me from all guilt and blame. Peope can look and say, oh that's her again, she's nuts.

Now let's look at you Dale. Let's look at what you say and do. I am positive you reach an audience of linguistic fetishists. I know from DC that you are stunningly fascinating upclose, and an amazing person to listen to.

But Dale, there is a point where criticism and societal dialogue crosses well into prejudice, rudeness and sheer militancy. And sometimes well into the realm of lying your ass off.

Dale I may have sucked ass at sentential logic and maths and abstracts in general. But I more than make up in pegging humans, and intuiting hidden motives and undercurrents. And I have been reading your articles, and I am pretty sure by now.

You are mad a hatter Dale. I can't figure out why and I'd love talking to you for a few nights, preferably naked in your arms to get to the bottom of this. I think it's fascinating the sheer power of your hatred. It is something to be envious about.

Dale Carrico said...

eek

jimf said...

Khannea Suntzu wrote (to Dale):

> And sometimes well into the realm of lying your ass off.

You are mistaken, of course. You may not agree with
Dale, and you may be offended by the vehemence with which
he expresses (on his own blog, after all) opinions with
which you disagree, and by the ridicule he heaps (quite justifiably)
on your pet lunacies, but there is simply no reason to
imagine that Dale has ever **lied** about transhumanism.

He's quite sincere in what he says, and not only that, his
sincerity is (at least in my opinion) not a case of
delusion or **self** deception.

He means what he says, and he's right.