tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post7106812544677373158..comments2023-11-22T01:14:54.298-08:00Comments on amor mundi: Better Than IntelligentDale Carricohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-21652495371118876062015-07-26T10:28:28.426-07:002015-07-26T10:28:28.426-07:00> > . . .the belief in Artificial Intelliege...> > . . .the belief in Artificial Intelliegence:<br />><br />> I doubt that anyone is calling current software "intelligent". They<br />> call it narrow AI in some cases, but it has nothing to do with intelligence,<br />> it's just a term. I do think though that intelligence can arise just<br />> from algorithms, but they would have to be far more sophisticated than<br />> what we have now. . .<br /><br />Pay no attention to that moderator behind the curtain!<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/magazine/when-the-internets-moderators-are-anything-but.html<br />-------------<br />When the Internet’s ‘Moderators’ Are Anything But<br />JULY 21, 2015<br />By ADRIAN CHEN<br /><br />. . .<br /><br />The hottest tech companies no longer want to run communities, with all<br />their messy, unprofitable human drama. Instead, they want to make platforms:<br />slick, frictionless, infinitely monetizable. Companies like Facebook and<br />Google try to create the illusion that their platforms are moderated by<br />algorithms, not people. They quietly employ huge teams of human moderators,<br />working under strict nondisclosure agreements, and yet these platforms<br />feel the same pressure as Reddit to expand faster than their human<br />resources allow. . .<br />====<br />jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-39126571980041350762015-07-26T05:48:10.525-07:002015-07-26T05:48:10.525-07:00> > intelligence, as we have it in humans......> > intelligence, as we have it in humans... [i]s also a result<br />> > of some "broken" or imperfectly working algorithms. . .<br />><br />> There is a suggestion in your phrasing that perhaps you actually<br />> **identify** in some way with the non-existing machine intelligence<br />> you regard as not only possible but superior despite its non-existence --<br />> hence you seem to describe the errors and passions and ignorance<br />> that articulate the play of human thought as rather inferior,<br />> as though you observe them from an alien or Olympian height.<br /><br />http://samvak.tripod.com/narcissistmachine.html<br />---------------<br />I like to think about myself in terms of automata. There is something so<br />aesthetically compelling in their precision, in their impartiality, in their<br />harmonious embodiment of the abstract. Machines are so powerful and so<br />emotionless, not prone to be hurting weaklings like me. . .<br />Machines are my folk and kin. They are my family. . .<br /><br />-- Sam Vaknin, "Narcissist, the Machine"<br />====<br /><br /><br />---------------<br />"Clocks are more interesting than people."<br /><br />"How so?"<br /><br />"They're more accurate, more predictable. . ."<br /><br />"They're more intricate."<br /><br />"Clocks?"<br /><br />"No, people. . . [T]hat's. . . because [a person] is not a mechanism. It is<br />not an it; it is a he or she -- . . . not predictable<br />because not mechanical. . . [H]uman."<br /><br />"Human? What's 'human' suppposed to encompass?"<br /><br />". . .[C]hanging and being unpredictable."<br /><br />"What's so hot about that?"<br /><br />"Hot, cold -- we are what we are -- humans, not clocks."<br /><br />"A clock is still easier to cope with."<br /><br />-- Theodore Isaac Rubin, "Lisa and David"<br />====<br /><br /><br />---------------<br />'It sounds... like abolishing pretty well all organic<br />life.'<br /><br />'. . . It is simple hygiene. . .<br />If you pick up some rotten thing and find this organic<br />life crawling over it, do you not say, "Oh, the horrid<br />thing. It is alive," and then drop it? . . .<br />And what do you call dirty dirt? Is it not<br />precisely the organic? Minerals are clean dirt.<br />But the real filth is what comes from organisms --<br />sweat, spittles, excretions. , , The impure and<br />the organic are interchangeable conceptions.'<br /><br />'What are you driving at, Professor? After all, we<br />are organisms ourselves.'<br /><br />'. . .In us organic life has<br />produced Mind. It has done its work. After that we<br />want no more of it. We do not want the world any<br />longer furred over with organic life, like what you<br />call the blue mould -- all sprouting and budding and<br />breeding and decaying. We must get rid of it.<br /><br />-- C. S. Lewis, _That Hideous Strength_<br />====<br /><br /><br />---------------<br />Squishy, biologically-based AIs seem to be getting more<br />common in contemporary science fiction. . . [but p]eople<br />on this list do not fantasize about being "uploaded"<br />into giant squishy, gurgling, pulsating<br />biological brains; diamondoid processors are a much more<br />appealing idea. We want to ditch these squishy bodies, not be<br />transferred into even ickier ones.<br /><br />-- me, 15 years ago<br />(via http://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.2Q00/5576.html )<br />====<br /><br /><br />---------------<br />[A]nother interesting bias among the<br />singularitarians. . . [is] be burning desire. . .<br />to amass and retail evidence of the unwashed<br />masses' inability to think like professional mathematicians. . .<br /><br />This. . . [serves] two rhetorical and/or psychological purposes. . ."<br /><br />1. [It demonstrates] the superior intelligence<br />and rationality of the AIs who will not be subject to these<br />failures, and<br /><br />2. [It demonstrates] the superior intelligence<br />and rationality of people. . . who, through lucky Algernonic genetics or the<br />assiduous practice of certain skills (the "Way of Rationality")<br />have **already**, prior to shuffling off this mortal coil,<br />placed a toe on the coily beginning of the Yellow Brick Road<br />to superintelligence.<br /><br />-- me, 8 years ago<br />(via http://amormundi.blogspot.com/2007/10/superla-pope-peeps.html )<br />====<br /><br />Ob-la-di, Ob-la-dajimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.com