tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post626662629954897944..comments2023-11-22T01:14:54.298-08:00Comments on amor mundi: Dumb Dvorsky Faces Reality, Throws TantrumDale Carricohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-53513356575303466192014-10-12T15:19:14.295-07:002014-10-12T15:19:14.295-07:00> > It can't be easy for the futurologic...> > It can't be easy for the futurological faithful, hyping the<br />> > acceleration of accelerating change and forever cheering on<br />> > all that venture capitalist disruption all the time and finding<br />> > themselves in a world that seems to be a stale re-tread of<br />> > the 1990s over and over and over again. . .<br />> <br />> Let alone finding themselves clearly and unmistakably 20 years older<br />> than they were in the 1990s, whatever vitamin pills and nootropics<br />> they're taking.<br /><br />Fereidoun M. Esfandiary ("FM-2030") interviewed by Nancie Clark,<br />ca. 1989 or 1990, I guess. Ms. Clark became "Natasha Vita-More"<br />when she married Max More in 1992:<br /><br />Getting Ready: The 1990s, an Interview with Futurist FM-2030 - Pt. 1<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrnlV0Pn9Wk<br />Getting Ready: The 1990s, an Interview with Futurist FM-2030 - Pt. 2<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz_mKuG-dis<br /><br />Part 2, 4:56/13:28<br />------------------<br />FM: We've come a long way from the old sexism and racism; I think we're<br />going to outgrow ageism in the 1990s as more and more people live<br />longer and longer. . .<br /><br />Nancie: And as I get older, I hope so.<br /><br />FM: Well yes, you're still a young kid, but the point is that more<br />and more people are living to their 80s and 90s and a hundred, and this<br />is going to keep expanding and accelerating. . . <br />====<br /><br />Ah well. Neither of us is a young kid anymore. :-/<br /><br />http://www.scaruffi.com/singular/sin32.html<br />------------------<br />Mind Uploading and Digital Immortality<br /><br />. . .<br /><br />This is another idea that gave rise to a quasi-religious cult/movement,<br />"transhumanism". The original prophet was probably Fereidoun "FM-2030"<br />Esfandiary who wrote "Are You a Transhuman?" (1989) and predicted that<br />"in 2030 we will be ageless and everyone will have an excellent chance<br />to live forever". He died from pancreatic cancer (but was promptly placed<br />in cryonic suspension).<br />====<br /><br />And as far as ageism is concerned:<br /><br />http://valleywag.gawker.com/ageism-turned-silicon-valley-into-a-hot-bed-for-male-pl-1550347156<br />------------------<br />If I had $1 million for every time a founder told me "It's impossible<br />to raise funding if you're not a twenty-something dude," I could lead<br />their Series A round. The same bias applies to hiring. The ideal resume<br />shouldn't be much longer than "Dropped out of Prestigious University."<br />This obsession with youth, reports The New Republic, has turned<br />Silicon Valley into "one of the most ageist places in America". . . <br />( http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117088/silicons-valleys-brutal-ageism )<br />====<br />http://www.sfgate.com/business/bottomline/article/In-Silicon-Valley-age-can-be-a-curse-4742365.php<br />jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-42582114121176961002014-10-11T11:46:14.644-07:002014-10-11T11:46:14.644-07:00> As one commenter has quipped in the Moot: &qu...> As one commenter has quipped in the Moot: "'Rational' is nothing<br />> more than Internet code for fringe beliefs at this point, isn't it?"<br />> It's crazy, but it's true!<br /><br />Rationality, I guess:<br />http://www.datapacrat.com/sketches/rationality.html<br /><br />(via<br />http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3627012&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=46 )<br /><br />Don't bite that perfect cheese!jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-7004587413149613152014-10-10T11:18:01.158-07:002014-10-10T11:18:01.158-07:00No regrets, Coyote.No regrets, Coyote.Dale Carricohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-16432535812468341462014-10-10T10:25:56.471-07:002014-10-10T10:25:56.471-07:00> I daresay the more we know about the material...> I daresay the more we know about the material realities of<br />> consciousness and identity the fewer folks will be drawn into the<br />> facile fancies of futurologists who want to arrive at such emulations<br />> because they believe the flabbergastingly stupid belief that<br />> such would be the arrival at a stepping stone along the road to<br />> super-parental Robot Gods and uploading humans into cyberangels<br />> living forever in Holodeck Heaven.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/03/amelia-artificial-intelligence-ipsoft_n_5920964.html<br />-------------------<br />Amelia is a pleasant, bright, professional. She is personable,<br />learns quickly, and can speak 20 languages. <br /><br />She dresses like a accountant, is patient and clear, and is<br />cheap to hire. And she can learn anything - anything - to virtually<br />an expert level in less than a minute.<br /><br />Amelia is an artificial intelligence. She exists, in commercial<br />form, today. And she wants to take over about a quarter of all<br />jobs within two decades.<br />====<br /><br />Amelia -- it was just a false alarm. ;-><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMwGTQ1bzU<br /><br />jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-69596220276710700212014-10-10T08:53:04.844-07:002014-10-10T08:53:04.844-07:00> It can't be easy for the futurological fa...> It can't be easy for the futurological faithful, hyping the<br />> acceleration of accelerating change and forever cheering on<br />> all that venture capitalist disruption all the time and finding<br />> themselves in a world that seems to be a stale re-tread of<br />> the 1990s over and over and over again. . .<br /><br />Let alone finding themselves clearly and unmistakably 20 years older<br />than they were in the 1990s, whatever vitamin pills and nootropics<br />they're taking.<br /><br />> Although I think there would be something appealingly Kang and<br />> Kodos, not to mention a little bit Baltar, about voting for<br />> President Zoltan. . .<br /><br />Dude, where's my flying car?<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RenOUsGvS90<br /><br />(Yes, this is a cheap and completely unoriginal shot -- I've never<br />even seen the movie -- and Istvan's already heard it a million<br />times. He's said so. ;-> )<br /><br />> Dvorsky wants to know why longevity medicine to increase human<br />> lifespans beyond the upper bound common to the ancients and the<br />> moderns alike keeps going nowhere. . .<br /><br />He should ask Doug Skrecky about that. Remember him?<br />He was an amateur gerontologist, and he used to post messages to<br />the Extropians' with subject lines like "Fruit fly trial #5472",<br />"Fruit fly trial #5473", "Fruit fly trial #5474", . . .<br /><br />He was nothing if not doggedly persistent.<br /><br />http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/2012-March/071957.html<br />https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.life-extension/xVX6zfz5dnI<br />jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.com