tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post529843831139508421..comments2023-11-22T01:14:54.298-08:00Comments on amor mundi: Na Ga Ha PenDale Carricohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-41339322959304923592013-02-25T05:30:06.283-08:002013-02-25T05:30:06.283-08:00Charlie Stross has discovered Roko's Basilisk:...Charlie Stross has discovered Roko's Basilisk:<br /><br />http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/<br /><br />> . . .as one observer unkindly put it, "the transhumanists<br />> want to be Scientology when they grow up"<br /><br />Who could that have been? ;-><br /><br />"Oh wow, I could get a whole damn NOVEL out of this idea. . ."<br />https://twitter.com/cstross/status/305031426213027841<br /><br />Of course, this means we're all going to Hell.<br /><br />;-><br />jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-5062209670482964302013-02-22T12:12:14.183-08:002013-02-22T12:12:14.183-08:00Can you digg it?
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Use...Can you digg it?<br /><br />http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Baloney_Detection<br />---------------------------<br />Relax, Max<br /><br />Not everybody is as against LW as you are. That's okay.<br />Personally, I agree. They're nothing but self-glorified<br />science-fiction writers. But there's no need to get up in<br />everyone's business about it. And please, try to keep it<br />down to a minimum of pages.<br />--"Shut up, Brx." 18 July 2012<br />====<br /><br /><br />I agree that I might have gotten an unhealthy obsession by LW<br />as of late. But it really bugs me when certain people can't<br />see the obvious crankery that is LW. I guess it is because LW is<br />more subtle about it and you have to digg a little, they are<br />not openly wooish like Chopra. If these people had been young<br />in the 60s and the 70s they would likely have been Randroids.<br />Rand held "reason" (her version of it, at least) in high regard<br />and praised science, yet if you digg a little deeper, she was<br />a complete crackpot.<br />--Baloney Detection 19 July 2012<br />====<br /><br />;->jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-57440109032052211432013-02-22T08:54:20.517-08:002013-02-22T08:54:20.517-08:00> Asked. . . to offer up an Ode to the techno-t...> Asked. . . to offer up an Ode to the techno-transcendental<br />> preoccupations of superlative futurologists, I provided as my contribution<br />> [something that sounds like one of Edina Monsoon's chants].<br />> I leave to the specificities of context the question whether the<br />> best musical accompaniment to my Ode be a yawn, a giggle, or a fart.<br /><br />Bubble, what do you make of this?<br /><br />http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Roko%27s_basilisk<br />--------------------------<br />. . .<br /><br />Seriously, with insane shit like this, the best case scenario is<br />that they are cynically running a scam. The worst case scenario<br />is that they are actually that crazy. I can't wrap my head around<br />just how harmful is this shit. To recap on the bits that combine<br />particularly badly: There's the doomsday that other people [the<br />"irrational" bulk of humanity, who haven't imbibed Eliezer's<br />"Sequences"] will bring, and which needs to be prevented.<br />There's dead babies currency idea<br />[invented by Scott Siskind, a.k.a. "Yvain" on LessWrong<br />http://www.raikoth.net/deadchild.html ].<br />There's 8 lives [saved] per dollar [contributed to SIAI/SI/MIRI]<br />'estimate', made off a podium at a conference, defended on forum<br />by at least 2 other inner circle people, later very weasely<br />semi refuted by one in a conversation that had been deleted since.<br />There's basilisk and Yudkowsky only knows what crazy basilisk related<br />shit he is alluding at (probably something that's even more stupid).<br />There's evaluation of different methods of stopping corporations,<br />complete with "shooting company executives will work" [*]. There's<br />multiverse which allows you to rationalize some seriously crazy shit<br />(original Basilisk relied on M[any]W[orlds]I[nterpretation of Quantum Mechanics]).<br />Then there's real world meetups with recital of quotes from effing<br />H.P.Lovecraft in the candlelight, and the quote was about how we are<br />protected from horrors by limits of our understanding, to boot!<br />(Coincidence or working up an audience for later introducing the most<br />impressible ones to some Basilisk-related shit?) . There's teaching<br />people that their reasoning is flawed (biases shit), which is literally<br />thought reform (Flawed it might be, it is not nearly as flawed as<br />giving money to crackpots or losing sleep over the basilisk).<br />There's idiosyncratic terminology and neologisms. There's slogans<br />like "raising the sanity waterline".<br />-- Dmytry, 19 February 2013<br /><br />Oh, I like "raising the sanity waterline" . . .<br />-- David Gerard, 19 February 2013<br /><br />"Raising the sanity waterline" is a mindless slogan of precisely the<br />kind you find in cults, that's why i mentioned it. Tell anyone that some<br />group uses it as slogan, if they have any sense they think its creepy<br />(and don't join up. . .).<br />-- Dmytry, 20 February 2013<br />--------------------------<br /><br />[*]<br />http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:LessWrong<br />--------------------------<br />[S]omeone started a thread with question if it would be ethically meritorious<br />to off tobacco executives, as tobacco is a product that kills most people.<br />The Yudkowsky chimed in, basically saying that a: makes them look bad and<br />b: if the crime is bad it's bad and if the crime is good talking about it<br />on the effing internet is still bad. . .<br />Something else: apparently they had someone who talked about getting<br />life insurance with singularity institute as beneficiary (edit: correction,<br />'best charity' not SI), and killing themselves, and someone actually<br />almost got inspired but got tentatively talked out of that. . .<br />-- Dmytry, 26 December 2012<br />====<br />jimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.com