tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post3624234770159526074..comments2023-11-22T01:14:54.298-08:00Comments on amor mundi: Loss, Connection, TransformationDale Carricohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-30365881582721668272008-03-18T20:00:00.000-07:002008-03-18T20:00:00.000-07:00Alisa Carse made very similar remarks today about ...Alisa Carse made very similar remarks <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/st_michael/2342949551/" REL="nofollow">today</A> about personal vulnerability, namely that biomedical technologies can serve as distractions from the fact of human vulnerability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-47078570417613081312008-03-04T12:16:00.000-08:002008-03-04T12:16:00.000-08:00Yet another apology of the body defined in terms o...<I>Yet another apology of the body defined in terms of its mortality and vulnerability. You are beginning to sound like one of those preachers who tell people that they should be happy in their misery because we are born to suffer. Or like those Victorian writers who exalted the lives of the poor, while of course their masters accumulated wealth and they, like all good lackeys, got some crumbs of their masters' wealth. I never considered myself as a rugged individualist, but if a rugged individualist is defined as someone who deals with things and achieves his objectives, then I am happy to be one.</I><BR/><BR/>Wow... I honestly never cease to be amazed by this man's ability to entirely miss the point. <BR/><BR/><I>You claim to be a person of the Left - did you ever read Marx?</I><BR/><BR/>Although I am not sure what he has written that would make any rational person question whether or not he is a person of the Left, doesn't Dr. Dale Carrico actually teach Marx?VDThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01496647346219341625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-66177162349995776802008-03-04T09:56:00.000-08:002008-03-04T09:56:00.000-08:00Yet another apology of the body defined in terms o...Yet another apology of the body defined in terms of its mortality and vulnerability.<BR/><BR/>You are beginning to sound like one of those preachers who tell people that they should be happy in their misery because we are born to suffer. Or like those Victorian writers who exalted the lives of the poor, while of course their masters accumulated wealth and they, like all good lackeys, got some crumbs of their masters' wealth.<BR/><BR/>I never considered myself as a rugged individualist, but if a rugged individualist is defined as someone who deals with things and achieves his objectives, then I am happy to be one.<BR/><BR/>You claim to be a person of the Left - did you ever read Marx?Giulio Priscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13811681020661409028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-17111739859083311862008-03-04T09:18:00.000-08:002008-03-04T09:18:00.000-08:00Studies show that "disembodiment—that is, transcen...Studies show that "disembodiment—that is, transcendence of body constraints in cyberspace—in online chat affects social psychological well-being. The results demonstrate that disembodiment is a strong predictor of increased loneliness and depression, and decreased social support. However, the amount of chat use is a positive contributor to decreased offline estrangement and depression, and increased happiness. These contrasting results suggest that online chat use is a technology for social connection used for offline connectivity, but the disembodiment motive is associated with declines in social support and psychosocial well-being."<BR/><BR/>How does your politics of autonomy factor this in?VDThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01496647346219341625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-12869438240413482412008-03-04T06:06:00.000-08:002008-03-04T06:06:00.000-08:00> Butler really goes Arendt one better in the pass...> Butler really goes Arendt one better in the passage, finding natality (...beginnings)<BR/>> in mortality (...ends (,,,death)) itself.<BR/><BR/>Oh, those deathists! ;-><BR/><BR/>> > I find myself wondering what we can say of mourning when. . .<BR/>> > we mourn the loss of something we did not know we had<BR/><BR/>Don't it always seem to go<BR/>that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?<BR/>They pave paradise, put up a parkin' lot[*]<BR/>Shoooh, ba ba ba ba<BR/>Shoooh, ba ba ba ba<BR/><BR/>[*]with a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swingin' hot spotjimfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975754342950063440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-30428376315860521192008-03-03T14:48:00.000-08:002008-03-03T14:48:00.000-08:00Hear, hear.You point to "ecosystemic catastrophe a...Hear, hear.<BR/><BR/>You point to "ecosystemic catastrophe and loss."<BR/><BR/>I find myself wondering what we can say of mourning when<BR/><BR/>a) we mourn the loss of something we did not know we had, or better, did not find ourselves consciously attached to<BR/>b) we mourn but we know not what we mourn, as in it is either too multiplicitous, too elusive<BR/>c) consequent to the mourning is the rebirth of that person/thing, as in we mourn what we can simultaneously restore<BR/>d) we mourn the losses we anticipate<BR/><BR/>All four of these, of course, being possible paths of mourning "ecosystemic catastrophe and loss."<BR/><BR/>They would show how complex mourning can be, and how an aspect of the natality of mourning is the various objects the mourning brings into the light of the mourned object, and a second aspect is the mourning of mourning, how the mourning is and is not at the same time.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it is the task of "shared creative expressivity" as you call it, to to gives images of what we mourn, just as it gives images of our mourning, just as it gives images of the natality of our mourning, so on.<BR/><BR/>It is for the ec-static "we" to give unity to the active cause, united around a shared sense of "ecosystemic catastrophe and loss." The non-autonomy, the non-Nature of the object that we lose is, of course, essential and a source of creative power for what follows.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08060803878271012703noreply@blogger.com