tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post8313930306970329603..comments2023-11-22T01:14:54.298-08:00Comments on amor mundi: Left and Right, Back to BasicsDale Carricohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-10184875393590549822015-01-01T17:36:31.171-08:002015-01-01T17:36:31.171-08:00I have written many elaborations of these basic no...I have written many elaborations of these basic notions elsewhere (many archived under the heading "Against Anarchy" in the sidebar). For now, I do want to add quickly that among the public decisions in which people should have a say is in the decision as to what actually constitutes having such a say, among the disputes that can be resolved nonviolently are disputes over what constitutes violence. These notions get sticky and paradoxical but what matters to me is that the democratic vantage is not invalidated but invigorated by working through them. <br /><br />The scene of informed nonduressed consent secured by the provision of general welfare (health, education, income, social support) and equal recourse to law and law-making (basic rights, the franchise, office holding, expression, assembly and organizing) provides both the vantage from which one can engage in private intercourse on consensual terms -- securing the strike-fund enabling collective bargaining in the extremity -- but also engage in public consent/dissent as the governed -- securing the position of the petitioner, resistor or activist against incumbent elites. <br /><br />It is a commonplace on the right to declare such provisions a violent expropriation of haves by have-nots. This view depends on the denial of the basic fact that those who have got what they have through recourse to a common heritage, through reliance on public affordances, and in inter-dependence with the efforts of the have-nots as much or more by far than of the haves. That is to say, they deny the public investment without which non-violence is not possible in the name of non-violence. They are in error or indulging in deception. It is a matter of some urgency that this error be corrected and this deception exposed -- but I cannot say that I see this happening very much.Dale Carricohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-14532206384220165182007-12-26T14:31:00.000-08:002007-12-26T14:31:00.000-08:00First of all, I distinguish science as a mode of w...First of all, I distinguish science as a mode of warranted belief ascription in the service of prediction and control (which may be influencing your sense of what "working" consists of in political contexts, a view that tends to yield anti-democratizing reductionist and technocratic attitudes in my experience) from politics as a mode of warranted belief ascription in the service of the ongoing reconciliation of the diverse aspirations of the actually existing plurality of stakeholders with whom one shares the world. <BR/><BR/>It is important to understand that the fact of plurality is different in character from, for example, the powers of prediction and control that obtain from our privisional commitments to scientific consensus. <BR/><BR/>What matters about #2 is that it gives the lie to the delusive elitist fantasies of those on the right who fear and despise the majorities with whom they dis-identify. <BR/><BR/>But what matters about #1 is that even people who believe things we think are weird or wrong actually share the world with us peers (a different sharing than the kind that substantiates moral identification or aesthetic sympathy, which is key to my further distinctions of these as unique and indispensable modes of warranted belief ascription as well) and <BR/><BR/>[one] It is crucial to their dignity and autonomy that they testify to their perspectives and desires; <BR/><BR/>[two] It is crucial to the abiding functioning of nonviolent social order that they feel themselves to have a real stake in its maintenance, <BR/><BR/>[three] It is crucial for error-prone and parochial humans to be exposed to views they think wrong and lifeways they find perverse because we are all as likely as not eventually to find our beliefs need correction by what long seemed in error or our bliss needs perversion by what long seemed wrong.<BR/><BR/>As for what government can and can't do... we are wandering here into the older discussion of negative as against positive liberty bequeathed us by our old friend Isaiah Berlin. <BR/><BR/>What seems key to me in the context of this distinction is to insist that the conventional liberal intuitions subsumed under the traditional heading of "negative liberty" tend to amount to an insistence on the universality of the scene of consent. <BR/><BR/>Neoliberals and market libertarians who like to fancy themselves "classical liberals" pervert this intuition by the sleight of hand of treating any market outcome as quintessentially consensual by fiat, however misinformed or duressed its circumstances. <BR/><BR/>In point of fact, the actual scene of consent depends for its substantiation on the provision of basic income, health, education, access-to-knowledge, security, accountable authorities, and legal recourse (else it is vulnerable to duress and misinformation), that is to say on the provision of what are disdained as "positive liberties" but the absence of which tend to be make "negative liberty" a vacuity and fraud.Dale Carricohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02811055279887722298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5956838.post-24617445432073510882007-12-26T13:48:00.000-08:002007-12-26T13:48:00.000-08:00For me, a "working" government would provide secur...For me, a "working" government would provide security and law (#3) and also #5 and #6. #2 is not something a government can directly do, but a working government should act based on #2 (I people are generally (not always) happier if they are treated as competent).<BR/><BR/>#2 implies #1 only if the general public is not misinformed (or under duress).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com